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now, what will they gain by going to benghazi and taking the security risk. they may decide not to go at all. >> so just to be clear, we're not sure at this point where the breakdown occurred in terms of who -- i mean, whether it was the libyans, whether it was -- or state department, we don't know where the breakdown occurred. >> no, that's right. anderson, it could have been something as simple as this sort of -- when the interagency discussion, the u.s. government writ large decided that if that's what you're required for your perimeter security, that indicated itself it was too dangerous and that they shouldn't be bothered, they shouldn't go at all. it's not even clear to us yet whether or not this request was put to the libyan government. >> fran, you say not only fbi investigators not gone to benghazi yet, but that some are not even in libya. >> that's right. anderson, whenever there's an international terrorism investigation, there's a protocol where fbi agents with palletized cargo and equipment predeploy in the region to get closer. in this case, tha
now, what will they gain by going to benghazi and taking the security risk. they may decide not to go at all. >> so just to be clear, we're not sure at this point where the breakdown occurred in terms of who -- i mean, whether it was the libyans, whether it was -- or state department, we don't know where the breakdown occurred. >> no, that's right. anderson, it could have been something as simple as this sort of -- when the interagency discussion, the u.s. government writ large...
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but he suggested to me at some point to go to benghazi, to see for myself. so i think he understood very well the increasing concern about extremism, but he never did mention to me anything about his being on an al qaeda hit list. >> and as far as security goes there are so many situations that can seem so worrisome and not just in libya. fran, thank you. appreciate your insight this morning. thanks so much. >>> the death of ambassador stevens, just the beginning, in fact, politically speaking. the white house's top brass now about to brief congress on the volatile and deadly situation that's unfolding right now. we've had violent clashes erupting from north africa throughout the middle east and southeast asia. this is a glimpse of the hot spots on your map in front of you. of these explosive attacks, there have also been suicide bombings. anti-american sentiments have been unleashed mostly because of that anti-islam film, if you want to call it that, movie, piece of tape, youtube clip. members of the house and senate are now about to get the briefing from s
but he suggested to me at some point to go to benghazi, to see for myself. so i think he understood very well the increasing concern about extremism, but he never did mention to me anything about his being on an al qaeda hit list. >> and as far as security goes there are so many situations that can seem so worrisome and not just in libya. fran, thank you. appreciate your insight this morning. thanks so much. >>> the death of ambassador stevens, just the beginning, in fact,...
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so there was military protection to go into benghazi, why didn't they get it? >> the answer to the question is not really clear. so it's not unusual, when you want to set up a security perimeter, you may look to the host country. if the host country is unable or unwilling to provide it, we don't know what the answer to that is, you may ask if you think you need it for u.s. military support, but that's got to go through a process. it needs state department and nsc support, the u.s. military would have to make an assessment about how big a security package that would entail and lastly, and perhaps most importantly, you need host government. the libyan government in this case, support to allow u.s. military boots on the ground to provide sort of the defensive security perimeter around the benghazi compound. now, i spoke to a senior administration official who said they have been having regular meetings twice daily, secure video teleconferences on updates of the investigation. there has been regular deputies committee meetings hosted by dennis mcdonough, the deputy
so there was military protection to go into benghazi, why didn't they get it? >> the answer to the question is not really clear. so it's not unusual, when you want to set up a security perimeter, you may look to the host country. if the host country is unable or unwilling to provide it, we don't know what the answer to that is, you may ask if you think you need it for u.s. military support, but that's got to go through a process. it needs state department and nsc support, the u.s....
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consulate on benghazi. he was talking about this stupid film. and he's got a history of drawing attention to these kinds of things and these have produced very violent reactions in afghanistan. so far we haven't seen that, but last year no one was paying attention to the pastor when he bernd the kuran. >> it's interesting because president morsi of egypt also in his initial statement, he didn't condemn the effort to sack the embassy in cairo, he condemned the film. it took a phone call from the president of the united states to get him to change his statements. but ben wedeman just told us, the egyptian government in public in english is different than arabic. they're going after the u.s. they're saying that, they're really going after president obama, if you will, as well. it's one thing to say something in english, another thing to say something to your own people in arabic. how should we read this? >> well, i mean, it's quite disturbing. but i think president morsi in egypt doesn't claim to be a close ally of the united states. and in fact, t
consulate on benghazi. he was talking about this stupid film. and he's got a history of drawing attention to these kinds of things and these have produced very violent reactions in afghanistan. so far we haven't seen that, but last year no one was paying attention to the pastor when he bernd the kuran. >> it's interesting because president morsi of egypt also in his initial statement, he didn't condemn the effort to sack the embassy in cairo, he condemned the film. it took a phone call...
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consulate in benghazi, libya. arwa damon is where it all started in benghazi. what's the latest, arwa? what's going on? >> reporter: well, at this point in time the situation in benghazi is incredibly tense. everyone who we've been speaking to really expressing their outrage, their horror at what took place. but also demanding that the libyan government take concrete action to try to bring about an end to these armed militias effectively that operate with pretty much complete and total immunity. we were touring the site of the consulate earlier today. and there we saw the country's president, the head of the national council -- congress, rather. he was saying at this point in time the government doesn't necessarily have the capabilities to reign these individuals or militias in. and this is of course of growing concern for the population and all the international observers. if the current libyan government is not capable of taking these weapons off the streets, of controlling these extremist groups, one can only imagine what the future of this country is going
consulate in benghazi, libya. arwa damon is where it all started in benghazi. what's the latest, arwa? what's going on? >> reporter: well, at this point in time the situation in benghazi is incredibly tense. everyone who we've been speaking to really expressing their outrage, their horror at what took place. but also demanding that the libyan government take concrete action to try to bring about an end to these armed militias effectively that operate with pretty much complete and total...
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they are under attack by radical forces and someone in benghazi is dead. the state department says it doesn't have independent confirmation of that death. an eyewitness says that it began with an islamic radical group showing up to protest a group they called anti-muslim. the group is on consulate grounds. in cairo they were under protest with fund mentalist protesters camped out just outside the american embassy walls, outraged by the same video. they stormed the compounds and replacing them with black flags and islamic indescription on it all. embassy staffers left before the protest. a marine contingent on the grounds. and egyptian security forces nearby. cnn is on the ground in cairo and tripoli. and mona is a journalist on the phone from cairo and we have fran townsend, a cnn national security contributor and a member of the external advisory committee and she visited with libya with her employer, and i want to start with ian. you saw hundreds storming the u.s. embassy in cairo. who are these protesters exactly? how widespread is this anger? and what
they are under attack by radical forces and someone in benghazi is dead. the state department says it doesn't have independent confirmation of that death. an eyewitness says that it began with an islamic radical group showing up to protest a group they called anti-muslim. the group is on consulate grounds. in cairo they were under protest with fund mentalist protesters camped out just outside the american embassy walls, outraged by the same video. they stormed the compounds and replacing them...
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put benghazi on notice that he's on his way to benghazi to hunt the people of benghazi to hunt them down, house by house, street by street, alleyway by alleyway, as he put it. and then this fine -- devoted his life to this region being gunned downindeed. we don't know who is responsible. we've heard various speculation. the chairman of the house intelligence committee thinks it has some fingerprints of al qaeda or at least al qaeda-inspired affiliate operation. what do you think? >> you know, wolf, i think we have to remember that al qaeda had deep presence, actually, in libya, and we go back to the infiltration of al qaeda into iraq a while ago. a few years ago. what we learned when the americans got the documents, the computer records of the jihadists, they captured records and what they learned is the largest group of jihadists came from saudi arabia. the second largest group came from libya. so there has always been an al qaeda presence in libya. there was a presence that gadhafi occasionally used in the fashion of the dictators of the arab world. they could wink at terrorism wh
put benghazi on notice that he's on his way to benghazi to hunt the people of benghazi to hunt them down, house by house, street by street, alleyway by alleyway, as he put it. and then this fine -- devoted his life to this region being gunned downindeed. we don't know who is responsible. we've heard various speculation. the chairman of the house intelligence committee thinks it has some fingerprints of al qaeda or at least al qaeda-inspired affiliate operation. what do you think? >> you...
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consulate in benghazi, libya. can you update us? >> it's my understanding there were nearly two dozen armed individuals that coordinated explosions and other things. this is the same site that was attacked with an ied about a month or so ago. very, very concerning, and it's concerning that this is a repeat target for them and that this may have been more successful because of the large scale of it. so it's, again, very, very concerning. we have seen al qaeda elements in libya spring up, as we have seen in tunisia, as well. all of that is concerning. we still don't know for certain yet, as i speak to you today or tonight, who is responsible and who's claimed responsibility. so those details are still unfolding. >> it is a coincidence or not that this is the anniversary of 9/11? and we see not only what's going on in libya, but they were attacking the u.s. embassy in cairo, as well on this day. is there a connection here? >> well, from what i have been led to believe as i stand here, there's no connection yet identified after the coor
consulate in benghazi, libya. can you update us? >> it's my understanding there were nearly two dozen armed individuals that coordinated explosions and other things. this is the same site that was attacked with an ied about a month or so ago. very, very concerning, and it's concerning that this is a repeat target for them and that this may have been more successful because of the large scale of it. so it's, again, very, very concerning. we have seen al qaeda elements in libya spring up,...
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consulate in benghazi two nights ago. christopher stevens was an arabic speaker, a longtime student of libya. he had lived in the kuchb country on and off for a long time. he understood the country well. in 2008 he wrote what in retrospect now seems to be an important and chilling memo about this particular place in libya. see, we'll show you. this is where libya is on the map of north africa. see libya sort of juts into the mediterranean at two different points, on the west side and on the east side. on the western side there, you see is tripoli. that is the capital of libya. but it is way over on the other peninsula on the right on the eastern part of the country where the city of benghazi is located. this place that christopher stevens, our ambassador who was just killed, the place he wrote about in 2008 in this cable that was uncovered by wikileaks, it's right there next to benghazi, the city of derna. in order to understand how it is we just had an ambassador murdered, it's worth knowing what the ambassador had to sa
consulate in benghazi two nights ago. christopher stevens was an arabic speaker, a longtime student of libya. he had lived in the kuchb country on and off for a long time. he understood the country well. in 2008 he wrote what in retrospect now seems to be an important and chilling memo about this particular place in libya. see, we'll show you. this is where libya is on the map of north africa. see libya sort of juts into the mediterranean at two different points, on the west side and on the...
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ambassador and four other than americans are in custody in benghazi. they're being indirectly linked to the rocket attack on the u.s. consulate. i want to talk to jimana in tripoli, the libyan capital west of benghazi. first of all, what do we know about those arrested? >> very little, suzanne, so far. what we understand from libyan officials is that at least one of those arrested is a -- they were detained in benghazi yesterday. we know they are being interrogated to see what role they had in the attack, but according to one sore libyan official today, they may not have been directly linked to the attack. they may have ties to the extremist organization that carried out the attack. they have not been charged yet. they are detained and being intrargted acorked to libyan officials, so we should be knowing about this as information is released by the libyan government. >> do we believe these people are really responsible for what took place, or does this look like this is more kind of a show? >> well, quite frankly, suzanne, the libyan government here is
ambassador and four other than americans are in custody in benghazi. they're being indirectly linked to the rocket attack on the u.s. consulate. i want to talk to jimana in tripoli, the libyan capital west of benghazi. first of all, what do we know about those arrested? >> very little, suzanne, so far. what we understand from libyan officials is that at least one of those arrested is a -- they were detained in benghazi yesterday. we know they are being interrogated to see what role they...
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>> given the circumstances in benghazi, wolf, probably not. probably because there had been similar attacks on the british ambassador's convoy, there had been an infiltration of islamic extremists from the southern part of libya, there had been a series of attacks near the airport. so there's no doubt that chris was well aware at the time that benghazi was less than a secure city. >> what do you think caused this attack? was it simply that anti-islamic film or is there something much bigger here that explains this hatred of the united states? >> well, with respect to libya, i don't think it has to do with hatred of the united states. the islam terrorist groups, could have been gadhafi dead enders who have been plotting to destabilize the government. across the rest of the region, there's clearly a permeation of anti-and the struggle between the muslim brotherhood. >> egypt is much more important. i assume you like a lot of others are deeply disappointed that the newly elected president was so shy at least at the beginning in condemning the att
>> given the circumstances in benghazi, wolf, probably not. probably because there had been similar attacks on the british ambassador's convoy, there had been an infiltration of islamic extremists from the southern part of libya, there had been a series of attacks near the airport. so there's no doubt that chris was well aware at the time that benghazi was less than a secure city. >> what do you think caused this attack? was it simply that anti-islamic film or is there something...
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is responsible, if it was coordinated, and if it was related at all to 9/11, and b, to the event in benghazi, libya. >> a lot of your colleagues, democrats and republicans, have said they're reconsidering supporting about $1. 5 billion a year in aid to egypt. are you amox those ready to pull the plug? >> you always have to ask yourself, is the united states and the national security better if we're gone completely or have a sphere of influence there? i do believe it ought to be leverage as we move forward and we have to get some commitments by this government that they're going to do more in sinai, less to provoke israel and make sure our u.s. embassies are protected fully by the egyptian government. it's unconscionable this could happen on their watch. so it needs to be a point of discussion. we need to be careful about starting to pull out of places that we don't understand the changes that are happening and we don't understand the intelligence and military roles yet and what this muslim brotherhood is trying to do. we should walk into that decision, not run into it. >> speaking of israel,
is responsible, if it was coordinated, and if it was related at all to 9/11, and b, to the event in benghazi, libya. >> a lot of your colleagues, democrats and republicans, have said they're reconsidering supporting about $1. 5 billion a year in aid to egypt. are you amox those ready to pull the plug? >> you always have to ask yourself, is the united states and the national security better if we're gone completely or have a sphere of influence there? i do believe it ought to be...
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when ambassador stevens was moving from tripoli to benghazi, he was doing public events. his schedule was known ahead of time. so i have a perhaps a different perspective because in libya right now, there are militias that are both internal and external. the whole eastern part of libya right now is under the control of islamic extremists, east of benghazi. there are towns where the government has not control where extremists have gained a foothold and there's no way of knowing whether they're domestic or foreign. >> eliot: even though there has been a democratic process in libya, there is a government which we obviously recognize and have somewhat cordial relationships with, the actual capacity of the government to control the way we think of government control and territory is limited especially as you say in the eastern part. >> there are consistent attacks that have been undertaken in libya against the government by elements of rem nines of a gadhafi regime, islamic extremists. there have been power outages in every town in the country since the revolution has had some
when ambassador stevens was moving from tripoli to benghazi, he was doing public events. his schedule was known ahead of time. so i have a perhaps a different perspective because in libya right now, there are militias that are both internal and external. the whole eastern part of libya right now is under the control of islamic extremists, east of benghazi. there are towns where the government has not control where extremists have gained a foothold and there's no way of knowing whether they're...
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tell us about this attention that erupted in benghazi. it did not actually happen in tripoli. are you in tripoli. how are people responding to what has taken place? >> well, the situation here in tripoli does seem to be normal. people are on the streets. there seems to be nothing but the news that -- of what happened in bengazy spreading across tripoli today. most of the people i have token to, people in the capital here, are shocked and saddened by this attack. they say that it does not reflect the way libyans treat their guests. this is not the way libyans feel about the united states, and they do appreciate and do express gratitude for the rule the united states played last year as part of the nato alliance in helping the libyan people in ousting mow har gadhafi during their revolution. we are hearing also from government officials who are condemning this. they're also promising to bring those responsible to justice to have an investigation into what actually happened and who is responsible for this attack. >> i want to play a bit of sound here. this is from a libyan govern
tell us about this attention that erupted in benghazi. it did not actually happen in tripoli. are you in tripoli. how are people responding to what has taken place? >> well, the situation here in tripoli does seem to be normal. people are on the streets. there seems to be nothing but the news that -- of what happened in bengazy spreading across tripoli today. most of the people i have token to, people in the capital here, are shocked and saddened by this attack. they say that it does not...
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at the benghazi. this after the united states, the nato allies, many in the arab world and moderate arab states worked together to get rid of gadhafi in libya and to see the attack on a mission in benghazi, that's way beyond politics, carol. this is a huge national security issue that's developed and goes to underscore that in these kinds of presidential debates when everyone is focusing on domestic issues, economic issues, the jobs related issues and domestic social issues that a national security crisis and this is a crisis right now can explode. you got what's going on in ben zba ga zi in libya right now. you got what's going on in cairo. american flags are burned. and it's a dangerous situation. this is one of the largest diplomatic missions that the united states has in the world. a lot of americans serving at the u.s. embassy in cairo. that's where they distribute more than $1.5 billion a year in u.s. economic and military assistance. mostly military assistance to egypt. but all that very much u
at the benghazi. this after the united states, the nato allies, many in the arab world and moderate arab states worked together to get rid of gadhafi in libya and to see the attack on a mission in benghazi, that's way beyond politics, carol. this is a huge national security issue that's developed and goes to underscore that in these kinds of presidential debates when everyone is focusing on domestic issues, economic issues, the jobs related issues and domestic social issues that a national...
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he knew benghazi. he knew the rebels in benghazi. he felt very comfortable there. this is not your typical sort of starched white shirt ambassador. this was a guy who was a real professional. who rolled his sleeves up, who wanted to help the libyans get the freedom that they have fought for. and so, it's an extraordinary loss not only for the state department, and obviously chris' family, but for the country. my only experience there has been libya was in a very fragile security situation and really needs the attention and support of the international community. and so, look, unfortunately, it will now get the attention it needed before this tragedy. it will get it now, because of this. >> right, fran, by all accounts chris stevens was a very special man with a very special affinity to libya. he was a key part in the american roll there over the last year and a half as the rapid changes were happening there in the arab spring. what does his death then today signify to you? >> well, look, i think we have supported the freedom movement. especially in libya. we suppor
he knew benghazi. he knew the rebels in benghazi. he felt very comfortable there. this is not your typical sort of starched white shirt ambassador. this was a guy who was a real professional. who rolled his sleeves up, who wanted to help the libyans get the freedom that they have fought for. and so, it's an extraordinary loss not only for the state department, and obviously chris' family, but for the country. my only experience there has been libya was in a very fragile security situation and...
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consulate in benghazi. backing the bailout a german court approves the permanent eurozone rescue fund but paves the way to joy in the five hundred billion euro for so they see their role completions attached all the latest from the german capital coming up short. and over a million we've got the money and so much for independence from spain claiming madrid is dragging their region down. it's seven pm here in moscow you live with us from with r.t. my name is tom would say let's get into the bulletin washington has condemned the killing of its ambassador to libya christopher stevens and three other officials who died when an armed mall attack the u.s. consulate in the city of benghazi the bloodshed one approach as job at american film which has been described as an insult to islam it's the first time a u.s. ambassador has been killed while in post since one nine hundred seventy nine lives of the american capital. and it should she can get to see you again day and now take us through america's reaction to the
consulate in benghazi. backing the bailout a german court approves the permanent eurozone rescue fund but paves the way to joy in the five hundred billion euro for so they see their role completions attached all the latest from the german capital coming up short. and over a million we've got the money and so much for independence from spain claiming madrid is dragging their region down. it's seven pm here in moscow you live with us from with r.t. my name is tom would say let's get into the...
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consulate in benghazi. let's go live to our pentagon correspondent chris lawrence getting new details on what's going on. chris, what are you learning? >> yeah, wolf, just in the past few hours libya's own prime minister told cnn's own christiane amonopore have arrested one man. he is currently being interrogated. and libyan authorities say they have several others under surveillance and more arrests may be on the way. meantime, u.s. intelligence officials say they are digging deeper and getting more information about who may have been behind this attack. at this point they say it does not appear to be a core al qaeda group, wolf. >> what does that mean? a core al chi da affiliate groups. what does that mean, a core al qaeda group? >> they think it's very possible that this could have been an al qaeda-inspired group. some group that is not directly affiliated with the hierarchy of al qaeda but does support the aims and ideals of al qaeda. >> and what about the u.s. warships, chris, that are heading toward l
consulate in benghazi. let's go live to our pentagon correspondent chris lawrence getting new details on what's going on. chris, what are you learning? >> yeah, wolf, just in the past few hours libya's own prime minister told cnn's own christiane amonopore have arrested one man. he is currently being interrogated. and libyan authorities say they have several others under surveillance and more arrests may be on the way. meantime, u.s. intelligence officials say they are digging deeper and...
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consulate in benghazi. and in cairo several men scaled the walls of the embassy and managed to tear down the flag. the anti-u.s. sentiment fueled by an amateur online film produced in america that millions of muslims consider offensive to islam. >>> back to the bargaining table for teachers after taking to the streets of chicago. there's no deal yet to resolve the teacher strike. talks entering day three with neither side expressing optimism that an agreement is near. >>> chicago mayor rahm emanuel says two sticking points remain, teacher evaluations and how to handle jobs for laid off teachers. >>> part of president obama's approval rating has cracked the 50% barrier. take a look at the latest cnn/orc survey. the president's approval rating at 51% up three points from last week's cnn poll, which was conducted before the democratic national convention. when voters were asked who has the advantage in next month's debate, 59% picked the president. 34% went with romney. >>> it is 19 minutes past the hour. the
consulate in benghazi. and in cairo several men scaled the walls of the embassy and managed to tear down the flag. the anti-u.s. sentiment fueled by an amateur online film produced in america that millions of muslims consider offensive to islam. >>> back to the bargaining table for teachers after taking to the streets of chicago. there's no deal yet to resolve the teacher strike. talks entering day three with neither side expressing optimism that an agreement is near. >>>...
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consulate in benghazi and opened fire. the violence in protest to that amateur online film produced in the u.s. that offended millions and millions of muslims. first, we want to bring in elise labott. she has known ambassador stevens for ten years. she works at the state department for us. elise this is a tragedy for the entire diplomatic community this morning. >> yes, yes. john, this is a terrible day for the state department. everyone is going to be in mourning today. it's not just the fact that chris stevens was such a popular figure of the state department. really, one of the cream of the crop of the u.s. foreign service. but it's been many years since someone of this level has been killed in an attack like this. so i think there's going to be a lot of shockwaves through the state department. after all the u.s. has done for the libyans. using force to get rid of moammar gadhafi, to help libya stand up as it moved towards elections, as it tries to start anew. i think there's going to be a lot of gut checking right now
consulate in benghazi and opened fire. the violence in protest to that amateur online film produced in the u.s. that offended millions and millions of muslims. first, we want to bring in elise labott. she has known ambassador stevens for ten years. she works at the state department for us. elise this is a tragedy for the entire diplomatic community this morning. >> yes, yes. john, this is a terrible day for the state department. everyone is going to be in mourning today. it's not just the...
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the state department later corrected her, saying she was speaking generally, not about the attack in benghazi. now, u.s. intelligence sources tell cnn tonight that in the immediate after math of the attack, they thought the attack might have been, their word, spontaneous. okay, this is going to be a crucial word to define. what exactly is immediate aftermath? because the white house and the state department stuck with the spontaneous version of events for eight days. >> we are very cautious about drawing any conclusions with regard to who the perpetrators were, what their motivations were, whether it was premedicated. >> this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack. >> based on the information we had at the time and have to this day, we we do not have evidence that it was premeditated. >> all right. these same people apparently knew a terrorist attack was perpetrated by al-qaeda within 24 hours after the attack, so the lack of information sharing does not seem to add up. tonight, representative peter king is calling for the resignation of u.s. ambassador to the u.n. susan rice for what he s
the state department later corrected her, saying she was speaking generally, not about the attack in benghazi. now, u.s. intelligence sources tell cnn tonight that in the immediate after math of the attack, they thought the attack might have been, their word, spontaneous. okay, this is going to be a crucial word to define. what exactly is immediate aftermath? because the white house and the state department stuck with the spontaneous version of events for eight days. >> we are very...